{"id":1163,"date":"2021-07-21T09:39:34","date_gmt":"2021-07-21T07:39:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cevimil.ch\/consultation\/"},"modified":"2025-05-16T10:03:22","modified_gmt":"2025-05-16T08:03:22","slug":"consultation","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/cevimil.ch\/fr\/consultation\/","title":{"rendered":"Consultation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=\u00a0\u00bb1&Prime; admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbHeader\u00a0\u00bb _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.16&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bba37990b1-ebd9-45c5-b3ae-47ca91b4aea4&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_row _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.16&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bba6f8baed-d1ee-48a5-aef2-587f70f07c6f\u00a0\u00bb global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb4_4&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.16&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.16&Prime; _dynamic_attributes=\u00a0\u00bbcontent\u00a0\u00bb _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bb379f2e2e-c17c-42be-85f4-1e74d8d39226&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb]@ET-DC@eyJkeW5hbWljIjp0cnVlLCJjb250ZW50IjoicG9zdF90aXRsZSIsInNldHRpbmdzIjp7ImJlZm9yZSI6IjxoMj4iLCJhZnRlciI6IjwvaDI+In19@[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=\u00a0\u00bb1&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.16&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bbdefault\u00a0\u00bb global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_row _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.16&Prime; locked=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb4_4&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.16&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.16&Prime; _module_preset=\u00a0\u00bb247003d0-66f0-44bf-9526-08d53d927378&Prime; max_width=\u00a0\u00bb760px\u00a0\u00bb global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb]<\/p>\n<h1>Centre consultatif civil sur les questions relatives au service militaire et civil<\/h1>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row custom_padding_last_edited=\u00a0\u00bbon|desktop\u00a0\u00bb _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.16&Prime; custom_padding=\u00a0\u00bb0px|220px|75px||false|false\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding_tablet=\u00a0\u00bb|0px|||false|false\u00a0\u00bb custom_padding_phone=\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0\u00bb locked=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb4_4&Prime; _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.16&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00a0\u00bb4.27.4&Prime; hover_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime; global_colors_info=\u00a0\u00bb{}\u00a0\u00bb sticky_enabled=\u00a0\u00bb0&Prime;]Le service militaire Cevi offre un service de conseil neutre en dehors de la structure de l&rsquo;arm\u00e9e. <strong>Ce service est ind\u00e9pendant, confidentiel et gratuit<\/strong>. Vous pouvez nous contacter si vous souhaitez vous adresser \u00e0 un consultant externe. Ensemble, nous trouvons des moyens et des solutions.<\/p>\n<p>Les sujets des conseils sont vari\u00e9s. Quelques exemples: probl\u00e8mes psychologiques, report de service, questions sur le recrutement, le RS, le service civil, les questions financi\u00e8res et bien plus encore.<\/p>\n<p>Des s\u00e9ances de coaching sont \u00e9galement propos\u00e9es.<\/p>\n<p>Le pas vers le conseil ou le coaching demande parfois des efforts et du courage, mais il en vaut toujours la peine!<\/p>\n<p>Si tu souhaites prendre contact avec un service de l&rsquo;arm\u00e9e, tu trouveras ci-joint les liens correspondants :<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.armee.ch\/fr\/service-militaire-aumonerie\">L&rsquo;aum\u00f4nerie de l&rsquo;arm\u00e9e pour les militaires<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.armee.ch\/fr\/service-militaire-service-social\">Le Service social de l&rsquo;arm\u00e9e<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.armee.ch\/fr\/service-militaire-service-psycho-pedagogique\">Le Service psycho-p\u00e9dagogique de l&rsquo;arm\u00e9e (SPP A)<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.vtg.admin.ch\/fr\/service-specialise-femmes-dans-larmee-et-diversite\">Service sp\u00e9cialis\u00e9 Femmes dans l&rsquo;Arm\u00e9e et Diversity<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Si tu souhaites contacter le <em>Service de m\u00e9diation ind\u00e9pendant<\/em>, tu trouveras ici toutes les informations n\u00e9cessaires :<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.vbs.admin.ch\/fr\/service-mediation-militaires\">Service de m\u00e9diation ind\u00e9pendant<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row column_structure=\u00a0\u00bb1_3,1_3,1_3&Prime; 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